Nick's .NET Travels

Continually looking for the yellow brick road so I can catch me a wizard....

Visual Studio 2008 Customer Experience Improvement Program gets a Face Lift

The first time you open Visual Studio 2008 (update: or 2005) you will notice that an icon appears in the taskbar:


Clicking this icon opens up the invitation to join the Customer Experience Improvement Program.  I the past this dialog has been fairly wordy describing what the program is about.  As you can see from the following dialog it now clearly indicates what information Microsoft will collect and what information will never be collected:

I must admit that I normally decline to participate in the improvement program for applications that are RTM.  However with beta products I always say Yes as I figure the more information I provide Microsoft about how I use Visual Studio the better they can make the product. Funnily enough, if you do decide to change your mind you can always bring this same screen up again by following the instructions and selecting Customer Feedback Options from the Help menu.

Update: This is the same dialog that appears in [VS2005] - not sure why but when I saw it under Orcas I thought it had been refreshed.....oh well.

Multi-targeting with Visual Studio 2008

Over of the perhaps over hyped features of Visual Studio 2008 is the ability to create, or work with existing, .NET Framework v2.0 applications.  One of the pain points of previous upgrades to Visual Studio is the need to migrate to a compatible version of the .NET Framework.  For large applications this can be a time consuming process to not only upgrade the codebase but also ensure that no functionality has been broken.  Unfortunately whilst it would be great for Microsoft to provide a perfect upgrade wizard that would guarantee that no bugs are introduced, the reality is that this is not practical and as such many organisations decide to defer the upgrade until a suitable break in their shipping cycle (for example after a major release). This has resulted in many organisations still working with .NET Framework v1.1 applications using Visual Studio 2003 - which is far from a current/productive IDE!

As part of a continuous movement by Microsoft to separate the framework from the IDE the next installment of Visual Studio, codename Orcas, allows developers to work on legacy applications whilst still taking advantage of the significant improvements in the IDE. This is something that mobile application developers have had with the compact framework since Visual Studio 2003 where we could build both v1 and v2 .NET Framework applications within the same IDE.

Last weekend when I was preparing to leave for Korea I extracted the latest source code from subversion to my personal laptop - thinking that I would take just the one laptop with me.  When I rebuilt this laptop I only put Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 following the lead of a number of Microsofties and as a way of forcing myself to become familiar with the changes in preparation for writing the second edition of the Professional Visual Studio book.  I opened up one of our existing .NET Framework v2 solutions and got an ugly surprise when it prompted me to go through the upgrade wizard - upgrade? but I thought that I could continue to work with v2?  Not having the time to work out what it was going to do I decided that it would be best to take both laptops with me and it has taken me until now to go back and investigate.

This time I decided to proceed through the upgrade wizard, despite it not informing whether it was going to upgrade to v3 of the .NET Framework or whether it was just going to upgrade solution and project files. It also didn't give me the option to backup the existing files, which I could have sworn was a feature of previous upgrade wizards. At the end of the wizard I checked the show log file option, revealing that the wizard does very little indeed.


From the conversion report it appears that both the solution file and all project files were converted.  However, the scan of all files contained in the project revealed that none of them needed to be upgraded.  I wonder if necessary upgrades are documented anywhere?  This will require further investigation when I'm not flying above the clouds and am back online.

Wanting to investigate this further I decided to do a diff and see what had been changed in the solution and project files.  Starting with the solution file it appears that only the header is upgraded:


Microsoft Visual Studio Solution File, Format Version 9.00
# Visual Studio 2005


Microsoft Visual Studio Solution File, Format Version 10.00
# Visual Studio 2008

This makes sense as it will ensure that the upgrade wizard isn't run the next time I open the solution file but what happens when I open the solution in [VS2005]?  Again, further investigation required.

Now for the project files... It appears that there are a couple of additional attributes and elements that have been added to the project file (bold indicates additions):

<Project DefaultTargets="Build" xmlns="" ToolsVersion="3.5">
  ..... {existing elements} ......

Now I'm presuming that old versions of MSBuild will simply ignore these new attributes and elements? More investigation required to determine both what each of these tags means (other than the obvious) and whether there is any level of backward compatibility.

Clearly whilst this feature is a key selling point for upgrading to Visual Studio 2008 I think that unless Microsoft ensures backwards compatibility there will still be a number of organisations that hold off upgrading.

Imagine Cup: The Judge's Pick

Most people that I spoke to who watched the software design final of the Imagine Cup were a little surprised with the results. To be honest my preferences would have been different but in hindsight I think I can see the rational behind the result.

One of the key judging criteria was around design of the solution which can be broken further into the level of innovation and the impact it would have. Innovation being what sets the solution apart from existing products/techniques and the creative use of technology to address the identified problem. The level of impact is determined by looking at the breadth of people that could benefit and the significance of the solution to that group of people.

In the case of Serbia, who have clearly done the most work out of all the teams in the finals, the concept of a driving simulator is not that new (since we have all played a racing game at some stage) and their solution is simply incremental improvements on an existing concept. Whilst most people could benefit from using such a simulator when learning to drive, there are other techniques for learning to drive that are adequate, so in terms of impact this solution would rank quite low. I'm sure that despite not being in either the top 3 or invited to the Accelerator these guys will go on to be really successful with DriveOn.

The other team that had a really polished product was Austria with their evolutionary electronic whiteboard. Think Microsoft Surface but designed for the class room and without the $10K price tag. I say evolutionary because despite being completed to the point of being a shippable product, their solution really does innovate, mearly extending existing electronic whiteboard functionality. Further, the level of impact is low as it is a tool for teachers to use with their existing teaching process. Again I would hope that these guys go on to sell this despite not having the opportunity to attend the Accelerator.
Most people agreed that what the Thai team had to offer was both innovative, as it took text and rendered it as a series of images, and had deep impact, as it potentially enables the large population who are unable to read, to read.

Similarly the Korean team with their custom built electronic sensory gloves demonstrated significant innovation. Clearly the level for impact for a select group of people is second to none. However as someone pointed the theme was "... better education for all" which is perhaps why they ended up in second.

I think the big surprise for a lot of people was that Jamaica pipped aireland for third place. On the one hand Ireland had a solution that really innovated to help people learn sign language using sign recognition via a low budget web cam but again it could be argued that this only impacts a select group of people and I think that the team needed that extra bit of bite to their presentation. On the other hand you have the Jamaica team that on the surface didn't appear to be that innovative. However, they had probably the best (with perhaps the exception of the Mexican team) presentations and attempted to deliver on a vision that would truly deliver a better education for all.

The other thing to bare in mind regarding the final stage of the competition is that the judges are primarily business, rather than technical, leaders. This means that you need to sell the vision, sell the solution and sell the team. I would suggest that at each stage in the sofware design competition the focus moves away from the technical, towards the business. For example at the national finals the students might have been expected to show code, or discuss in detail their architecture. In the early rounds of the finals they might have been asked about the high level architecture but the focus was more on their use of technology. Then lastly in the finals the focus was more on being able to identify a problem and execute on building a solution to address said problem.

Imagine Cup: Awards Ceremony and Results

Today is the final day of the 2007 Imagine Cup world finals and I'm currently sitting in the front of the Vista hall (appropriately named given it's an MS event). Before going through the winning annoucement I would like to echo the words of Shin-ll Kim that all the students regardless of how far they got in the finals "are winners". The quality of submissions this year are all of an exceptional standard and really do reflect the cream of students from around the globe.

With 344 students from 65 countries the atmosphere in the room was amazing prior to the announcements. And the excitement increased through the introductory remarks, a traditional dance and a martial arts routine.

The results for the Photography category:
1st - Team Maraqja, Poland (Iwona Bielecka, Malgorzata Lopaciuk)
2nd - Team Black and White, Croatia (Aleksandar Kordic, Igor Matosa)
3rd - Team Awesome, Canada (Patrick Struys, Ryan Marr)

The results for the Short Film category:
1st - Skylined, Poland
2nd - Team Circle, Taiwan
3rd - Papa-Paçoca, Brazil

The results for the Interface Design category:
1st - Team OOT Graphics Studio, Austria (Verena Lugmayr, Claudia Oster)
2nd - Team FrontFree Studio UI, China (Dongjing Yao, Yushi Ma)
3rd - Team Atomnium, France (Manon Gaucher, Flavien Charlon)

The results for the Project Hoshimi category
1st - Team OIA, Argentina (Pablo Gauna, Nicolás Alejandro Rodriguez Vilela)
2nd - Team Arenium, France (Laure Portet, Régis Hanol)
3rd - Team vladan.simov, Serbia (Vladan Simov)

The results for the IT Challenge category:
1st - Zhifeng Chen, China
2nd - Romain Larmet, France
3rd - Llie Cosmin Viorel, Romania

The results for the Algorithm category:
1st - Team Psyho, Poland (Radoslaw Czyz)
2nd - Team Roman, Ukraine (Roman Koshlyak)
3rd - Team SzSz, Hungry (Szilveszter Szebeni)

The results for the Web Development category:
1st - Team APB, France
2nd - Team Red Dawn, Ireland
3rd - Team FrontFree Studio - Web, China

The results for the Embedded Development category:
1st - Team Trivent Dreams, Brazil
2nd - Team Aether, Romania
3rd - Team SEED, China

The results for the Software Design category:
1st - Team 3KC, Thailand
2nd - Team En#605, Korea
3rd - Team ICAD, Jamaica

BT Innovation Accelerator program: In addition to the prizes, the Imagine Cup also acts as a feeder to the BT Innovation Accelerator program to which 6 teams will be invited to participate. This program has been setup as a partnership between BT and MS and seeks to take the student projects and catapult them forward. The top 3 student projects automatically qualify for this program which leaves 3 spots open to any other team at the world finals. Earlier this morning I was fortunate enough to provide my thoughts as to which additional teams should go through to the accelerator. The 3 teams that were just announced are:

Ireland - As I mentioned in my previous post on the final 6, the Irish entry was clearly innovative and represented just the beginning of an idea that can go much further.

Mexico - After not qualifying for the second round a number of judges felt this team had all the ingredients to really benefit from being involved with the accelerator.

Poland - A number of projects included use of Microsofts multipoint technology that allows multiple mice to be used on a single computer. What the Polish team did was truly innovative as it not only allowed multiple cursors (on a single computer) to be controlled remotely across a network and for each cursor to maintain its own in focus window. Of course by itself this wouldn't be that valuable as the remote user wouldn't be able to see what they are clicking, so the team also built in remote sharing capabilities. A remote user could connect to any number of desktops and use Shift-Tab to switch between them - very like using Alt-Tab to switch between programs.

Congratulations to everyone who competed in this year's Imagine Cup. Next year is in France and the theme is the Environment.

Imagine Cup: Software Design Finals

I'm sitting here in the main hall of the Imagine Cup 2007 listening to the final set of presentations for the Software Design invitational. The first three sessions I have already seen and it was pleasing to see that they have taken on board some of the judges comments in their presentations.

(Team inGest: Daniel Kelly, Cathal Coffey, Eric McClean, Mark Clerkin)
These guys already had a well oiled presentation and I really enjoyed the additonal video at the end that showed the process of building the software. Through a pair of red and green gloves combined with a standard web cam their software, appropriately named Signal, was able to track hand and finger position in order to interprete signs and convert them to the corresponding letters or word. Signal is able to help the user learn sign language through the demonstration of signs. The web cam then record their motion and determines if they made the sign appropriately.

(SMOR Team: Neven Tubić, Milan Stojić, Ivan Vujić, Sava Čajetinac)
Unfortunately due to the hardware that DriveOn requires it was setup on its own stage which made it hard for the audience to see what was going on. DriveOn is a three (actually multiple) screen driving simulatior specifically designed for teaching students to drive. In addition to building the rendering engine, the students also built an instructor management UI that allows the instructor to setup scenarios for the student to work through. For example they can add/remove traffic, can puncher a tire or change traffic lights. It is hard to believe that 4 students managed to build this entire solution in only 10 months

(En#605: Lim Chan-kyu, Min Kyoung-hoon, Lim Byoung-su, Jeong Ji-hyeon)
The host nation really delivered a well rehersed presentation which clearly identified the problem, presented their solution, Finger Code, and how it works. Simply Finger Code is a set of smart gloves that a deaf blind person can wear and receive/transmit letters in the form of finger braille.

Out of the second set of three teams to present I had only seen the Thai application, which meant I had to wait in anticipation for Austria and Jamaica.

(3KC Returns: Prachaya Phaisanwiphatpong, Vasan Chienmaneetaweesin, Jatupon Sukkasem, Pathompol Saeng-Uraiporn)
The Thai application, LiveBook, can essentially be broken into two parts. On the one hand they have taken a standard web cam and used it to OCR any book or text (including handwriting). Then taking the text they search a database for images that correspond to words. The images are then presented inline in the text using some nice 3D rendering. In this way the images can be used to 'interprete' the text by someone who can't read.

(OOT Development Team: Michael Hurnaus, Juergen Oberngruber, Claudia Oster, Christian Schafleitner)
INTOI - Interchange of Ideas is an electronic whiteboard that allows the user to do a wide variety of activities such as zooming in/out, loading and interacting with images and other media. The system was presented well with attention paid to the use in the classroom.

(ICAD: Imran Allie, Conroy Smith, Ayson Baxter, Damion Mitchell)
CADI is a collaborative real-time workspace that enables the teacher to share notes, communicate (including language translation) and interact with students. The Jamaican team presented their solution with a single presenter who captured the audience, while the other team mates were actors in the demo.

All six finalists displayed all the characteristics of a winning entry. As one of the other pre-finalist judges commented "I'm glad I'm not working out the winning entry!"

Good luck to all the remaining entrants. Tomorrow we will discover the judges' verdict

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 Installation Issue with Team Explorer

Recently I started rebuilding my personal laptop and made the decision to see whether I could get away without installing [VS2005].  Unfortunately early this week I ran into a bit of a hurdle when I attempted to install Team Explorer.  For some reason I was getting the following screen mid way through the installation:

I took a look at the error log and while there was definitely evidence that the installation had failed, it wasn't clear to me what was causing the issue.  After searching for others with issues installing Visual Studio 2008 I came across Aaron Stebner's blog which features this post on how to enable verbose logging and who to email (ie Aaron) for assistance.  If you are having issues installing Orcas I would highly recommend contacting Aaron as he has been extremely responsive and has got me up and running.

So, some more information on my specific issue:

When installing Team Explorer it needs to perform a number of steps, the first of which is to install the Premium Partner edition of Visual Studio 2008.  This appears to be where the problem lies as the .NET Framework 3.5 log file indicates:

DDSet_Error: CFxInstaller::SetupScriptMapsIIS7 webServerHandlerComponent.Install failed. c_szRulesExtension=.rules Error code: 0x80070002
DDSet_Error: CFxInstaller::SetupComponents SetupScriptMaps failed. Error code: 0x80070002
DDSet_Error: Setup failed. Error code: 0x80070002

This appears to be an issue extracting files as part of the installation.  From a command prompt navigate to the \wcu\PPE folder of your Team Explorer image (in the case of the TFS iso this is \tfc\wcu\PPE).  Then run the following commands:

  1. Run vside.exe /x to extract the contents to a local folder
  2. Run msiexec.exe /i vs_ide.msi /l*v %temp%\vs_ide_log.txt from the folder that you extracted to in step 1
  3. Run setup.exe from the Team Explorer folder - this time the step to install the Premier Partner edition will not appear as it has already been completed.

I hope this helps others having issues installing Team Explorer for Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2

Imagine Cup: Round 2 done, now for the Finals

Congratulations to the following teams who made it through to the final round of the software design invitational of the 2007 Imagine Cup:



* This was the first time Ireland has sent a team to thumbs up to the boys for getting this far!

** Congratulations to the host nation that despite severe language issues have made it through

*** These guys wore green and yellow "Jamaican Inside" t-shirts that were a great parody on the "Intel Inside" slogan.

Yet again it was an awesome experience to be involved with the judging process.  The final round is to be judge by a special panel of VIP judges that represent both Microsoft and Sponsors.

Imagine Cup: Round 1 done, now for Round 2

Congratulations to the following teams who have made it through to Round 2 of the Software Design invitational of the 2007 Imagine Cup: 

Czech Republic

Imagine Cup, Software Design Judging - Round 1

The format for the judging of the software design invitational for the Imagine Cup 2007 has changed slightly from 2005 when I was last involved.  This year, instead of having a lightning round where we got to know the competitors, we were straight into round 1 today.  Round 1 is to be split over two days with each team presenting to 2 different sets of judges.  There are 55 teams in this division this year which have been broken into 6 pools - this means that each set of judges sees at least 9 teams in both halves of round 1.

Two teams from each pool will advance to Round 2 where they will again be broken into pools.  This time there will be 3 pools and they will have to present to yet another set of judges in order to qualify for the final round of 6. 

After watching 9 presentations this afternoon there are a number of general comments to be made:

Firstly I would like to reiterate the marking scheme that the students have and that the judges are marking against:

Project Definition - 15%

Design - 60%

Development - 15%

Presentation -10%

I think in most cases the presentation skills weren't too bad - although there is always room for improvement, which comes with more practices.  The biggest difficulty I found was with the articulation of the project definition.  Unfortunately although this is only weighted to 15% if students don't get this across then they will loose marks across the board.  Failing to communicate the project definition is usual a result of a poorly structured or ill prepared presentation and if the judges fail to understand the project then it is hard to know whether the design and development of the application addresses the project.

There are other specific feedback comments that have been passed onto the relevant teams but for the most part teams should focus on conveying the project definition and how their solution addresses it.  For the most part the innovation behind the application will then be self-evident.

Korea: Imagine Cup 2007 World Finals

Last night I arrived in Seoul to help judge the finals of the software design invitational as part of the 2007 Imagine Cup. Despite having been involved in the Imagine Cup in both 2004 and 2005 I wasn't sure what to expect - one of the best things about the finals competition is that each year it is in a different country, and each year it is run slightly differently.  What really took me by surprise was the density of the population (I'm guessing in hindsight I shouldn't have been that surprised with the millions of people living in Seoul) - there was endless identical high-rise apartment blocks along either bank of the Hangang river.  Although that said, they have at least preserved some semblance of parkland along the bank itself.

As the first round of judging kicks off this afternoon I just wanted to draw students' attention to a number of resources that might be useful in their preparations:

  • Comments by a number of judges from previous years
  • Feedback by myself regarding my expectations (note that the format for this year has changed slightly)

At the welcome dinner last night the order that the teams in the software design invitation will present was determined, with each team being drawn at random and placed in a group (A - F) in a time slot.  Each group will present twice in round 1 before two sets of judges.  Given that the judges have also come from all around the globe I think it would be worthwhile for students to take a moment to review the list of judges.  Although the judging will be conducted in an unbiased manner, each judge will be basing their assessment on their background, experiences and expectations.  There is a mix of both academic and commercial experience, which in itself will influence whether judges are looking for a commercial or a theoretical solution for the problem the students have selected.  As of the time of this post the judges haven't been allocated to a group, once they have all students should take the time to familiarise themselves with which judges they will be presenting to.

Me.dium Gadget goes live

In exciting news Me.dium for IE7 is to be released (hopefully by the time you read this post) and they have announced a widget that can be added to your site so "you can see the real-time activity of your community - the people who are reading your blog or have recently visited it." [Medium Widget Blog].

Both Sandi's blog, Spyware Sucks (the leading site imho on everything related to spyware, malware etc), and this blog are featuring the pre-release widget.  In my case it is in the lower left of the screen - take a look at what other browsers are doing now!

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SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition Book

I just noticed that Jeff has reviewed the book Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition.  Jeff goes into substantial detail in his review looking at the contents of each of the chapters.  Although I haven't had the opportunity to read this work, from Jeff's comments I think this book would be worth reading if you are working in the mobile space and are interested in getting started using SQL Server CE and data synchronisation.

Windows Mobile Security Explained

Ever wondered why your device prompts you when you attempt to run an application?  Or perhaps what those Microsoft folks are on about when they talk about 1 and 2 tier security models?  Well as a follow up to my previous post about the Device Security Manager, here is a post by Reed Robison that gives a great introduction to the Windows Mobile security model.

Automation with Device Emulator v3

In order to successfully build an application for a mobile device you need to go through the same process as you would for building any other application when it comes to testing.  Unfortunately this is typically a painful process as it requires the application to be tested on numerous devices, much of which is hard to automated.  Luckily, building applications for the Windows Mobile platform and particularly the .NET Compact Framework reduces the variability of devices and provides a set of expectations around the target device.  This process is also painfully slow as the process of building, deploying and testing on the device is much slower than on the desktop.

Most device developers will have at some stage used the device emulator to help them build, test and demonstrate their application. Visual Studio 2005 shipped with v1 of the device emulator which, unlike previous versions, was a standalone emulator that could be used without the overhead of Visual Studio.  It was also considerably quicker than previous versions. 

Since then we have seen version 2 release and now with Visual Studio 2008 just around the corner there is going to be a device emulator v3. Mohit Gogia has gone into detail about one of the most significant features of the new version - Automation.  Automation has particular relevance to testing applications as it enables the tester to programmatically control the emulator.  This allows test cases to be fully automated so that they can be integrated into an organisation continuous build system.

Windows Mobile Security for Developers

Before I get into the talking about a tool that windows mobile developers will find useful I thought I'd start off with a tool for the end users who are worried about loosing their precious device.  Earlier this week I was sent a link to the Shadowmite Hacker Team which had an interesting utility for locating lost or stolen devices.  Like the look of SecurIt, which is available via XDA developers, as it is simple and has a single function:

Basically it watches your simcard’s IMSI at every boot to see that it’s the same, and if so, just play a “OK” chirp. But if the sim has been changed it locks the phone up while also sms’ing a preset number the new number and imsi right from the new numbers account.

Now for developers: One of the cool features of Visual Studio 2008 is the Device Security Manager (accessible from the Tools menu), which allows you to examine the security configuration of your device (or emulator) and to be able to reconfigure your device to a particular (or one of the predefined) security configuration.


If you are building mobile applications you don't need to wait until Visual Studio 2008 to be able to change the security configuration of your device.  There is a tool called the Security Configuration Manager that ships with the Windows Mobile 6 SDK which has the same functionality, although arranged slightly differently. This tool is a little hidden as it is not installed by default.  After installing the Windows Mobile 6 SDK go to c:\Program Files\Windows Mobile 6 SDK\Tools\Security\Security Powertoy and run the installer SecCfgMgr.msi.  This will install the Security Configuration Manager so that it appears directly under All Programs in Start menu.

security configuration manager

One of the biggest annoyances of working with a real device, over an emulator, is that they are usually set to One-Tier Prompt security (for Pocket PC devices at least). When you build, deploy and run an application from within Visual Studio you will get prompted to confirm that each assembly is ok to run.  If your application has a number of assemblies this quite quickly gets very frustrating.  By changing your device security back to "Security Off" you can eliminate the prompts and hence get your work done quicker. 

There are strange parallels to the whole "developing as administrator" discussion as to whether this is a good idea in the long run, since most device you ship to will probably have security enabled.

Vista Security is a Real Pain (and not very secure)

Yesterday I put my old slow hdd from my laptop in an external enclosure so that I could easily access any data that I had on my computer before the upgrade.  Unfortunately this plan got thwarted when I attempted to access my documents folder (ie f:\Users\Nick\.....).  This raised a security access denied error, despite the fact that I'm an administrator on this computer.  Even if I ran Windows Explorer as administrator it still wouldn't allow me to access this folder.

Luckily one of the other people in the Silicon Beach House still has a Windows XP machine so I asked them if they could open the folder, which they could no problem.  Great, so Vista has added an additional level of security that is a complete waste of time since the folder can be accessed on older computer....?

To disable this security "feature" I simply selected the Users folder and forced an update of security permissions so that "Everyone" has full access.  This seems to work and now I can access everything on the external drive.  What a waste of an hour of my time!

Pocket PC Controller gets a Face Lift

Having just rebuilt my personal laptop (with a new 7200rpm drive which makes a noticeable different to speed) I downloaded the latest version of Pocket PC Controller.  I noticed that they have done a couple of releases since I worked with it earlier in the year but I wasn't expecting a massive face lift.  They have adopted the new Office 2007 look - not going to describe this as a picture is worth a thousand words:


One of the cool features of Pocket PC Controller is the ability to capture not only stills images but also videos footage.  This is a great way to demonstrate your application in action!

User Group Library in Use

It's great to see that not only is the Perth .NET Community of Practice library growing (thanks to Mitch who is really working with the book publishers to get access to more books), it is actually being used. At the moment we have 10 books out of a total of 37 on loan to user group members.

Recent additions include:

For quick access to the library and to reserve a book, head over to HireThings.

Hint: If you are attempting to search for the user group books make sure you set the location to Australia!

Do changes to Australian media ownership laws mean the end of boutique media outlets?

I wonder how much of this discussion will be focused around new-media v's old-media.  To be honest I can't remember the last time I read the paper hoping to find out what is going on in the world - most of the Australia papers are little more than light comedy relief.  Most of my news, current affairs and technology information comes online from one of my countless rss feeds.  If I can't subscribe to it I can guarantee I'll only look at it once. 

Personally I'm looking forward to this discussion and would encourage others to attend:


Walkley Media Forum – The War of Attrition: Influence & Diversity
Thursday 23rd August 2007, 6.30pm
The Ernst & Young Building
11 Mounts Bay Rd, Perth

New federal laws are radically reshaping Australian media ownership. The first round of mergers has seen Rural Press swallow up Fairfax, Packer capture Channel Nine Perth and Seven Network seize a strategic stake in The West Australian. What does this mean for WA and where are our media industries headed?

Join our panel of experts to find out more about the future of our work. Moderated by Michael Sinclair-Jones, WA Branch Secretary, Media Entertainment & Arts Alliance

Panellists include:

· Gary Adshead, Snr Reporter Channel 7

· Bronwen Clune, founder Norg Media

· Martin Turner, Community Newspaper Group

RSVP to the Alliance call 1300 65 65 13 or email